Discussion in 'Kali Ilustrisimo' started by Black Grass, Apr 12, 2006.
What is involved in the practice of 'ligis' ?
Fraile, outside fighting or defending. Striking the hand wrist or finger areas.... to enter the head , shoulders and, elbow areas for your complete killing blows. aloha.
It involves the use of hand and forearm to manipulate your opponent to facilitate jointlocks, crank, wrenches, disarms, traps and takedowns. Those who practice jujitsu, chin na and maybe silat will find affinity between their methods and ligis. Ligis lends itself best against adversaries who like to use brute force in close range.
You should see mang Romy's applications of Pluma if you haven't seen them yet. He's a wonder to behold.
Oh yeah. Had a taste of Ligis. Didn't know that was the term. I tried grappling with him empty hands (I'm a blue belt in BJJ). Didn't get to take him down. I got manipulated like crazy. hehehe
Re the Pluma. I was 1st taught the formal version. But he also showed me 3 variations. 1 of which is Media Pluma.
fav technique. all of them.. deadly stuff!!!
Yeah romy master of ligis yan! hehehe
Thanks Raul. We have similar methods in my practice of Silat. Aside from KI, I used to train a lot in Silat about 20 years ago.
Everything we do in the sayaw.
I like the Classico Technique and also like another combination of strikes one of Mang Tony's students showed me: Bagsak to the arm on a strike from the abierta side, redonda, aldabis then bagsak to the head.
Sounds like you are describing what Mang Tups describe as V-De Cadena-V. I feel it is one of the most versatile combinations, personal favorite.
Yes, I find it very fluid the striking is very fluid as one strike sets up another.
I also like the pluma off of a trust into a doblete or bagsak.
Bro. A KI guy just utilized ligis in a BJJ tournament and won Silver in the no-gi division and Gold in the Gi Division.
He used elements of ligis to set up an Americana and a Kimura from side control. Wow!
Due to constraints of time, what we usually do is train the basic strikes with the various footwork, then work 2 - 3 or more count combinations (amarra). We work primarily on single weapon, thus, training left and right sides is highly recommended.
I usually teach a set of combinations (1-9 and 10-18) then when the student work on their own time, they would work on their own combinations (amarra) with footwork.
We work on a core of 9 counterstrikes and an optional of another set of 9.
Then they try to apply it in sparring and see which combination works for them.
Salto! The sneaky and wicked salto!
I believe I got hit by the salto more than I could remember. Ouch!!!
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