What grip do you prefer?

Discussion in 'Misc. Knife Arts' started by Captain Jack Sparrow, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. Hello everyone,

    before i go on spring break later today, i'd like to poll everyone (is there a poll option in this forum?)

    in using the knife, what grip do you prefer and why?

    forward saber grip? hammer grip? pakal? edge up, edge down etc....

    i personally tend to like to using pakal (ice pick) with the edge in because for me it gives more reach strangely when i play in the largo/medio range... and i like the ice pick power of pakal... very gross motor...

    as for the edge in, i like to bite the person's arm/hand as he tries to strike me.. and when we start to clinch, my pakal edge in traps the limbs and when the opponent forcibly retracts, he unknowingly cuts himself further...

    hope i was clear...

    thanks

    Cap
     
  2. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    See also this thread. I associate your approach with Pekiti Tirsia! I like saber grip for knife dueling, but for other applications the reverse grips start to look more attractive. I don't think I agree with you about reach...for me, I feel like I lose a little reach, though not necessarily a lot.

    Some people call saber grip the "hammer grip" because it's reminescent of how you'd hold a hammer, but I find it confusing to think of my knife as being like a hammer!
     
  3. Ron B

    Ron B Junior Member

    with training with the knife I train with both the forward grip and the reverse grip.forward grip is probably better for longer ranges and the reverse grip is better close in.also depends on what you want to do with the knife whether or not I want to use the knife to slash or to stab.as for the forward grip being called the hammer grip I would agree as you hold a hammer tight with your last 3 fingers and loose with the index finger and thumb.I hold the knife the same way I would hold a stick,hammer ect.
    some people like to rest their thumb along the top of the knife.I tried that but in knife sparring my thumb would get jammed up sometimes.
     
  4. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    As an aside, an article in Knives Illustrated Magazine (Dec. 2006) labels the four basic grips as follows:

    Fencing (forward, edge down)
    Draw cut (forward, edge up)
    Reverse (reverse, edge out)
    Dagger (reverse, edge in)
     
  5. Matt Lamphere

    Matt Lamphere New Member

    I have no preference.

    It really depends on how the blade or other improvised (ie: pen, light) device ends up in my hand. I figure that it's best to train with as many variations as you can. Keeps your options open.
     
  6. Carol

    Carol <font color = blue><b>Technical Administrator</b><

    I'm still deciding on my fave grip. I agree with Matt though, I think in a live situation a lot would be situational.
     
  7. kabaroan

    kabaroan Kabaroan

    No preference here either, each has a place.
     
  8. Matt Lim

    Matt Lim New Member

    Firm grip. Point or edge towards the opponent.
     
  9. PG Michael B

    PG Michael B Oso Grande

    However it comes out is my favorite, just be prepared to use it no matter the grip.
     
  10. tanod

    tanod New Member

    first post here...yay!
    no preference, what ever works
     
  11. Riddick29

    Riddick29 New Member

    I try as much as possible to be familiar with the 12 Sayoc Grips, and the 16 FCS Grips.
     
  12. Sheldon Bedell

    Sheldon Bedell New Member

    I was train first with the ice pick grip so I guess I tend to favoroe it but i know that each situation differes and the best grip will diiffer with the situation

    sorry folks typing with out my glasses this morning
     
  13. tellner

    tellner New Member

    Just hold on good and tight.
     
  14. Christian

    Christian New Member

    12 or even 16 different grips? Is it 8 Knifes per hand :) ?

    Could you describe them please? Pic´s of course would also be great.

    @topic
    I think each grip has it´s use and it really depends on the weapon and the circumstances etc.

    Regards

    Christian
     
  15. Buwaya

    Buwaya Senior Member

    Hopefully its the handle I'm gripping:)....
     
  16. Riddick29

    Riddick29 New Member

  17. Imua Kuntao

    Imua Kuntao New Member

    It doesn't matter the grip, however it goes in the body and where in the body, it becomes a body handle in which to manipuulate the body into another position or takedown or for a finnish.
     
  18. Christian

    Christian New Member


    Thank you very much.

    Do you think that much variety is necessary? I feel this is a little bit "oversophisticated".

    Regards
    Christian
     
  19. Riddick29

    Riddick29 New Member

    The 12 or 16 are usefull ; but not in all case. The first fives for example are just one or two finger moving from a "standard" hammer grip. Some grips are for "pinning" while fighting, others are for more accuracy ; when you work them a lot, you feel how to switch from one to another without danger.
    Some (shown with the "small blades") are to hide the blade partially in your hand and get a more surprising effect ; the two "between the fingers" (like a fist) are not very comfortable, but you can clearly see their use if you get a push-dagger in your hand. Each one has its importance, but only for specific reasons.
    In Sayoc, we have what is called the pinch grip (two finger grip), we use it with our blade (and it's not very comfortable) ; but how would you hold a razor blade or something else in that style.
     
  20. Christian

    Christian New Member

    So it is also for different blade types... OK, than I guess I understand. Thank you.

    Regards
    Christian
     

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