eomoe: "This guy knows a thing or two, but thats about it." gago.. your make it sound like i am only beginner but I am founder and GM of the Filipino Underground Consolidated Kali. "if you want a juego to happen, first,dont be hiding behind names you make up. you offer a challenge give the time and place and be there rain or shine." OK!! I like juego to happen and invite you to Staples Center for test of skills!!! I will be there on this Sunday morning and you know it is me because I am going to stand in front of the main entrance and I will be wearing my Kobe Bryant tshirt because in the morning I am playing basketball for warm up. You can make PM gago!