Sharpening a Ginunting?

Discussion in 'Pekiti-Tirsia Kali' started by Vitamin Water, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. Vitamin Water

    Vitamin Water New Member

    Hey guys.
    So, how does one sharpen a Ginunting? any tips or tricks for it? I was trying to look through various forums, and it basically came down to sending it to a pro. I don't entirely like that idea. I have some 600 and 1200 grit sandpaper, and a 4-inch double sided whetstone, one side ceramic, the other diamond.

    Thanks
     
  2. Vitamin Water

    Vitamin Water New Member

    I forgot to mention, this is a newer model TFW ginunting (I bought it ~3 months ago)
     
  3. equilibrium

    equilibrium New Member

    I suck at sharpening, but I just bought one of the little sharpeners that has a handle and a little V prong at the end. I just run it the length of the blade a few times. It works. They sell them all over for sharpening kitchen knives, etc.
     
  4. Vitamin Water

    Vitamin Water New Member

    Wow, I forgot all about those!
    I found mine, and if you want a bit more sharpness, you can get one with a ceramic insert instead of the normal carbide; the ceramic put a nice edge on it. Simple enough for me, and portable. Nice.
     
  5. TuhonBill

    TuhonBill New Member

    Blade Sharpening

    Hi Folks,

    I have four videos on blade sharpening on my YouTube channel. The four cover the basic tools you'll need, an overview of the types of grinds, and techniques for two specific grinds (more grinds to follow). Here they are:

    [video=youtube;hecKdNJ6E9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hecKdNJ6E9Q[/video]

    [video=youtube;uwWIgHdychQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwWIgHdychQ&feature=related[/video]

    [video=youtube;06oPQitr7is]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06oPQitr7is&feature=related[/video]

    [video=youtube;Fbg5LKL36Ps]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbg5LKL36Ps&feature=related[/video]


    Regards,
    Tuhon Bill McGrath
     
  6. neo

    neo New Member

    Tuhon, many thanks for the videos. They have been extremely helpful as I learn how to sharpen my ever expanding knife collection.

    Vitamin Water, I also purchased a ginunting from TFW 5-6 months ago. I asked the owner his opinion and he recommended having a professional do it. After learning more about sharpening my knives, I would definitely recommend not sharpening a ginunting yourself. It seems it would be nearly impossible to keep a consistent angle on any sharpening stone I have ever seen (that is 6" to 12" variety). I would hate to hear that your blade was ruined. I don't anticipate a need to sharpen mine because I will not be thrashing on it but if the need arises I will find a pro.

    good luck,

    mitch
     
  7. TuhonBill

    TuhonBill New Member

    Sharpen a large blade

    Hi Folks,

    Here is a system I put together that allows you to sharpen large blades with a convex edge, without the use of machinery such as a belt sander.


    [video=youtube;laEvtvdxD6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laEvtvdxD6M[/video]


    Regards,
    Tuhon Bill McGrath
     
  8. lhommedieu

    lhommedieu Senior Member

    Tuhon - thanks for the interesting and valuable thread. I've been sharpening my kitchen knives with a double bevel but recently purchased a Mora #1 for camping and general outdoor use. I've read somewhere that the Sandi grind can be useful for camp work, specifically for shaving fire sticks but also for fine work where you don't want to use an axe. Most of my camping has been done up northern Ontario, with the same kind of soft pine (but also with mixed cedar, poplar, aspen, and birch) that presumably you'd find in Sweden and Finland, etc.

    I'm wondering if something like the Crawford Woodcraft knife that you reference above would be more useful for the mixed oak/hemlock trees that I find down here in the lower 48, and if the Sandi grind is a little too fine?

    Best,

    Steve
     
  9. lhommedieu

    lhommedieu Senior Member

    Scandi grind...

    It is, by definition, sandi...

    Best,

    Steve
     
  10. TuhonBill

    TuhonBill New Member

    Outdoor blades




    Hi Steve,


    I usually carry more than one knife (don't we all :) So I don't try to find one knife that works for all tasks. Since you already have a Mora, I would add something thicker, like a Fallkniven S1, ESEE RC-4 or RC-6, or even a Becker BK-2 or ESEE RC-5.

    The woodcraft knife I mention in my sharpening video is the old 1/4 inch thick version of the Condor Woodlore. The grind on this is too steep for my liking on a blade of this size, so I will probably bring it up nearer the spine. Here is a good review of this knife:


    [video=youtube;-XjG-eBLvbQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjG-eBLvbQ&feature=related[/video]

    Here is my views on warm weather outdoor knives.

    [video=youtube;rYld3eFQmK0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYld3eFQmK0[/video]

    I recently started using a Cold Steel Trail Hawk tomahawk. It's a lightweight little hawk that punches above its weight class. This also would make a good partner for your Mora.

    [video=youtube;6pvv97vPLHk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pvv97vPLHk[/video]

    Like all Cold Steel axes, they come dead dull from the factory, so you have to spend some time sharpening the edge. But once you do, the Trail Hawk is a versatile tool. Cold Steel is coming out with some nylon sheaths for these this spring. Once they do, I plan on selling a package on the PTI website that includes a sharpened Trail Hawk, a sheath, and a DVD detailing the use, care and feeding of such creatures.

    Regards,
    Tuhon Bill McGrath
     
  11. acdcnate

    acdcnate New Member

    Find a blade-smith and get it sharpened. Most of the time the home tools only ruin blades. There are some great tools, but they cost a lot of money. I had mine professionally sharpened for 10 dollars. Now honing your blade is different and should be done monthly at the most. Sharpening is the act of reconstructing a point on the metal, honing is realigning that point. To sharpen, you need a very good set of grindstones which are expensive as I said.
     

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