In Ron's defense he's not a Sayoc student, so he would have no reason to use Pamana Tuhon Sayoc's title, while he is a Pekiti student, so he'd use Grand Tuhon Gaje's title. As far as Mr. Inosanto goes, which would you prefer he uses, Guru, Guro, Sensei, or any of variations, or other titles he's accumulated over the years. Anyway you go I'm sure he doesn't care. He's gonna' keep training and doing what he does regardless of what you call him, or wether or not he's got a title in it. Could we get over all the nit picking and let guys like Ron and Rafael (granted he kinda' started all of it, by perceiving offense when none was intended, but I can see where he'd be a bit defensive considering some of the posts regarding Pekiti vs Sayoc up to this poin) Honestly the majority of Pekiti guys I've run into are good guys. I can say the same of the Sayoc students. I got to train with Pamana Tuhon Sayoc for about an hour once at an event in Philly when he shared a seminar with Grandmaster Max Pallen and in that time got the impression that he was a decient person and a good instructor. As of yet I haven't gotten to meet or train with Grand Tuhon Gaje, so I can't really say anything about him. I hate to judge anyone just by their posts on an internet forum.