punyo question

Discussion in 'General' started by jezah81, Mar 9, 2014.

  1. jezah81

    jezah81 Member

    Hey guys,

    What styles of Arnis is there that don't hold the stick with a punyo protruding? In JKD/Kali and doce pares we are taught to hold the stick with a fist length punyo extending out of the stick holding hand, but what are some styles that don't hold the stick with a punyo sticking out? And what are other styles that use punyo? What are pros and cons of holding the stick in both ways? Look forward to hearing some thoughts ....[​IMG]
    Cheers
    Jeremy
     
  2. groupedmethod

    groupedmethod New Member

    I wouldn't know about styles that don't use a punyo, but using it is a lot better because it provides leverage, as well as more force

    Talk to people who practice kendo, they'll tell you the same thing.
     
  3. blindside

    blindside student

    When I studied Cabalas Serrada we didn't use a punyo. I didn't study it very long, but I am assuming the main reason was that since you are using such a short stick (18-24 inches) you want to maximize the force and range of the weapon.
     
  4. blindside

    blindside student

    Maybe I don't understand, how does a length of punyo provide more force?
     
  5. groupedmethod

    groupedmethod New Member

    better balance, it's much easier to return to guard following a strike
     
  6. BayaniWarrior

    BayaniWarrior New Member

    Here's a video of myself explaining different ways to grip a Stick. It's always important to train with a stick in various grips and positions to truly gain an understanding of it's versatility as a striking, grappling, and shielding tool. Depending on what you are doing, the punyo can be used in a variety of ways.

    [video=youtube;RyqA8_cDSbo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyqA8_cDSbo[/video]

    Hope that helps.

    Respectfully,
    Guro Mike Pana
    Chief Instructor
    www.bayaniwarrior.com
     
  7. jezah81

    jezah81 Member

    Thanks for the replies.
    Jeremy
     
  8. jspeedy

    jspeedy Member

    Not sure about all Serrada but the groups I've seen don't use a punyo. The explanations for this I've heard are the the punyo can be used against you by making it easier for the opponent to disarm. In addition the shorter weapon of Serrada gets even shorter with a punyo. In Balintawak we use a pretty minimal punyo for similar reasons, there's just enough to attack with and hook and manipulate the enemy. Longer range systems I've seen use a bigger punyo but they t tend to use a longer weapon and disarms where the opponent may use your punyo to take your weapon are less likely at longer ranges. Then of course there's the topic of disarms in general which has come up lately in a few fma pages. I agree with bayani warrior, try out all grips, most styles trend to favor one method but that doesn't mean you can't experiment.
     

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