I appreciate the concerns about this topic, and I certainly don't want to see us have a nonproductive discussion here...especially since I know it's been hashed out so much elsewhere. The question comes up so frequently, due to Sayoc Kali's having become so well-known, that I wanted to know more. Thanks to posters here and to PMs, I do feel better informed now! As the thread starter, I have no further questions. Welcome to FMATalk, Gilla and Sun Helmet! We hope you'll contribute on other threads as well.