However, I REALLY scratch my head at the people who insist on adopting Japanese forms & dress for Filipino arts. I think it was Arnisador who said that the trouble was that Jigoror Kano's system of identification for Judo had been set as the standard for all other martial arts. I agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly. FMA has it's own standard of native attire, as well as rank and title. The Filipino bow is unique. Why not make it for the rest of the art as well? I used to wear a vest during competition, but after being told I lost points because I was not in a proper uniform I capitulated and went back to a Gi. Besides, I have put on weight and the vest makes me look fat- he he.