MT: Whats up with this ???

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  1. balita

    balita <B>News Bot</B>

    Whats up with this ???
    By LocknBlock - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:18:19 GMT


    [​IMG] Something all in FMA should think about!!
    Re: Found this while surfing

    Hey I found this on a groups page while reading FMA digest,sup with GM Davis??? Is he on some kind of ego trip??? Looks like the guy he is talking about just got promoted from a very creditable federation,looks like one of the students of GM Fred Lazo has a difference of opinion. It makes sense that FMA people ought to learn to work together so that a positive legacy can be left, otherwise instead of illegal cock fights, there will be underground death matches to settle dis-agreements. We can all help each other for the sake of the future. Peace out!!

    Both GM Robert Castro ( Eskabo Daan & Kombatan ) and GM Lito Concepcion ( Kombatan) were personally taught and promoted to 9th Dan ( degree) by GGM Ernesto A. Presas. GGM Presas awarded a honorary 9th Dan to GM Emil Bautista ( Kajukenbo - NorCal HQ K.S.D.I. ) who was there at theKombatan training camp as the 'guest of honor'. Eskabo Daan founder GM Robert Castro and Eskabo Daan were also honored to be inducted to the Philipine Martial Arts Hall
    of Fame and Filipino Martial Arts Museum at : [​IMG]

    GGMErnesto A. Presas [​IMG]

    [​IMG][​IMG]10th IPMAF World Arnis Congress and Training Camp , Presas Beach ResortHinigaran
    Negros Island
    April 23 – May 7, 2007

    Look I found this on another group while I was checking out the groups directory. Martial artists should really try to get along cause this sets a bad example for all who practice FMA, I practice Balintawak and my GrandMaster Fred Lazo trained from Felicisimo Dizon, the one that GGM Angel Cabales in his book says that he learned from, so technically most of the Filipino styles are all inter-related some how so we should all actually promote each other, something like what is stated in this letter can be forgiven and over looked. All of us who are FMA players should set the standard not tear it all down, however like my teacher told me thats why in the Philipines in the ol' days they fought to the death that way there would be no question of who was good, cause the winner lived and the loser died. Thats why we don't in our school play in tournaments, tournaments develop bad habits. Well that is really a post you found abba.niko. Salamat Po, hey maybe one day they will let outsiders(non-filipinos) excel and grow in their art.

    --- In, "abba.niko" wrote:
    > May 11,2005
    > Greetings Mr.Rob Castro,
    > this letter is in regards to our recent telephone conversation
    > regarding Tony"The Tiger"Lopez,
    > and Jessy Lopez Sr. dating back to May 5,2005. First, I'd like to
    > express that your poor attitude concerning the misuse of both of
    > these very reputable person's names is extremely direspectful and is
    > highly distasteful to all parties concerned. Your unwillingness to
    > support the Tony"The Tiger"Lopez Boxing Seminar on May 14,2005, is a
    > sign of your total disrespect towards this man, and shows that you
    > are not willing to hold yourself accountable for your deceptive,
    > bad, and misleading marketing tactics.
    > How dare you use this man's name in vain over a long period of
    > time, and not feel that you do not owe this man a formal public
    > apology, along with some form of financial reimbursement or
    > compensation as well.
    > Your arrogancy is utterly despicable Mr.Castro. What you have done
    > and continue to do in regards to misrepresenting me, Jessy Lopez
    > Sr., Tony"The Tiger"Lopez, Grandmaster Angel Cabales, Dan Inosanto,
    > Bruce Lee and other's, is totally dishonorable and is extremely
    > unbecoming of a true martial artist.
    > I am personally offended, and I am ashamed to have been your
    > primary martial arts teacher,
    > and for these reasons, I feel strongly, that it is my personal duty
    > to reprimand you in regards to the ambiguous, misleading and false
    > information that you have presented to the world martial arts
    > community. Essentially, what you have been doing Mr.Castro is, you
    > have been releasing untrue or shady information about your martial
    > arts background. What you are doing now, and have been doing, is
    > within the legal world called "Plagiarism". To plagiarise means to:
    > steal and use(the ideas or writings of another) as ones own.
    > There are serious legal consequences that comes along with one who
    > willingly and knowingly plagiarises another person(s) material or
    > ideas. This, Mr. Castro you have most assuredly done.
    > Let me further explain just how you have fallen into the category
    > of being a plagiarist.
    > As we investigate the style of martial arts you claim that you
    > invented known as "ESKABO DAAN" we have encountered some serious
    > flaws or defects. Your creation story about your style of Escrima
    > states the following: Grandmaster Rob Castro's philosophy: E is for
    > Escrima,
    > S is for Serrada from Grandmaster Angel Cabales and Master Anthony
    > Davis, K is for Kali from Master Danny Inosanto, A is for Arnis from
    > Grandmaster Ernesto Presas, B is for Boxing from Champion Tony"The
    > Tiger"Lopez, and Thai Boxing from Master Anthony Davis, and O is for
    > Jeet Kune Do from Bruce Lee. 'Daan' means "The Way" in Tagalog.
    > Now, from my memory recall you've only studied the arts of
    > Escrima and Serrada primarily under one instructor, and that one
    > instructor just happens to be me. Incidentally, Escrima and Serrada
    > are one and the same art form known as(Serrada Escrima) and are not
    > two seperate arts. To my knowledge, you hold no legitimate rank in
    > the art of Serrada Escrima that has been awarded to you directly
    > from the late Grandmaster Angel Cabales. All of your instructor
    > degree's in this particular art comes directly from me. In the
    > contents of your background information, you give people the false
    > impression that you trained directly from GM Angel Cabales, this
    > could not be further from the truth. In reality, your minimal
    > contact with the Grandmaster always came directly by way of me.
    > Concerning your background in the art form of Kali that you claim
    > comes from Danny Inosanto, once again to my knowledge, you have
    > never met nor trained directly from either Dan Inosanto or from any
    > of his main instructor's. As I am the one who personally knows
    > Mr.Inosanto by promoting him in seminars as far back as 1980 & 1983,
    > once more, it is through me that you have acquired any skills in the
    > art of Kali.
    > As far as your claim that you learned your Boxing skills from ex-
    > 3-time World Boxing Champion Tony"The Tiger"Lopez, you and I both
    > know that you have never even met the man, let alone, have you ever
    > personally learned boxing from the man. Out of all of the lies that
    > you have told and documented, thus far, this particular lie is the
    > most appalling of them all. On your website there appears a
    > photograph of myself and one of my now deceased graduate
    > instructor's by the name of Kove Jones. This particular photograph
    > depicts Mr.Jones and myself holding a certificate together; the
    > photo is labled :GM Kove Jones & GM Anthony Davis. Basically, in the
    > photo I am awarding Mr.Jones his well earned Master Diploma Degree.
    > What puzzles me about this photo is, I am Mr.Jones' chief
    > instructor, and Mr.Jones is your senior teacher, but yet, somehow
    > both you and Mr.Jones have now become Grandmasters. Of course
    > Mr.Jones had nothing to do with this fluke, as this particular
    > picture was released just after his untimely and unfortunate death.
    > Lastly, Mr. Castro, you really went overboard when you state that
    > the letter 'O' in your Escrima system stands for "Jeet Kune Do" from
    > Bruce Lee. I' m sure that Bruce Lee's widow Linda Lee Cadwell and
    > Bruce Lee's direct students will dispute this rediculous claim at
    > some given point in time.
    > Your only authentic and brief acquaintance with any of Bruce
    > Lee's original students is with the legendary Prof. Leo T.Fong, whom
    > again you met through me. I have recently informed Prof. Fong about
    > his photo's and information concerning him currently appearing on
    > your website.
    > His response to being informed of this info., is he wants any and
    > all information concerning him to be taken off of your site just as
    > speedily as you removed the information about Tony"The Tiger"Lopez
    > off of your site. Otherwise, he stated, "Mr.Castro will soon be
    > hearing from my attorney". In conclusion of this denunciation letter
    > to you, as of this day { May 11,2005} you are no longer recognized
    > by me or by any member within the body of my organization as one of
    > my graduate Instructor's. As of now, the authority granted to you by
    > me to teach martial arts under the umbrella of my organization known
    > as "MARTIAL ARTS INTERNATIONAL" is now hereby officially defunct. I,
    > Anthony Davis, as the founder and President of "MARTIAL ARTS
    > INTERNATIONAL" do hereby retract and cancel your membership within
    > my association. As of now Mr.Rob Castro, you are no longer
    > officially authorized to represent me in any form or fashion. You no
    > longer have my permission to use the teaching diploma's that I
    > myself gave to you for the purposes of validating your credentials
    > as a teacher within the body of my organization known as "MARTIAL
    > ARTS INTERNATIONAL". Additionally, I am officially requesting that
    > you discontinue the use of my photo's on your website, as I have not
    > now, nor have I ever signed any release forms or waivers stating
    > that you could use any of my materials, images, etc. for the
    > purposes of your promotional campaigns.
    > If you do not abide by any of the demands concerning myself and
    > my products, creations, etc. I, in turn will file a civil lawsuit
    > against you, and we will meet each other again in a court of law.
    > Respectfully,
    > GM Anthony Davis/President


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  2. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    I've moved this MartialTalk post that was crossposted by the newsbot to the Serrada forum.

    -FMAT Admin

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