Yes I have heard one side of the story. I have talked to others besides the Presas family to get more data as well. Much lines up, but I cannot fill all the wholes as you say. But, when I hear comments from GM Remy Presas mouth when he was alive such as: "Gee Remy you must be the best stick fighter in the world. (* Remy replies *) No, there are those in the Philipines who are better than me. There is one here in Michigan who trained with Anciong Bacon. There was another story of him and Delfin Lopez. Remy beat up Delfins nephew. So Delfin was going to come for Remy. Remy asked Manong Anciong if he could fight Delfin. Anciong would tell if you did not stand a chance. Anciong told him he could fight, with a little bit of hesitation. So Remy followed up and asked why the hesitation. Delfin is good, he may beat you. (* Delfin had also trained with Anciong *). He (Delfin) also carries a .45 with him. So be prepared. Remy left Cebu. This story was also confirmed by the Balintawak Lineage I train in and teach and as Manong Ted did not meet Remy in the PI but meet him here in the states many years later. But, Manong Ted stated that Remy had a reputation of fighting. Now as to stories, yes I know they come out. People have tried to claim Modern Arnis here in the States in the 70's. Remy had to show at the publisher to show his own book to prove to them that it was his system. I also know that old men tell tales and their nephews and grand children then tell them on the internet now. Hence my multiple source and nto a late to the party I am the creator and best person ever story. I also know about the racism from may Filipinos. I am not Filipino, so no matter how good I am, I will never be as good as a Filipino who has never trained, or does not even know they have local arts to study as well as the Japanese and Korean systems. I understand your point, I have tried o acknowldge your point and state my point back. You have not acknowledge, but instead tried to get me to train with you in the PI. Instead you have continued to tell me I am wrong because people tell tales or stories. Hmmm, I guess I will go with what is printed and from multiple sources until I can read and talk to mroe people in person to verify these claims. But you see this is me still being open minded, as I am always willing to learn. I get the feeling that people are out to just prove the "white boy" who obviously does not know the PI culture wrong.