Discussion in 'Misc. Stick Arts' started by arnisador, Feb 21, 2006.
That is so true thats why I want a cane made of 'bahi'. Good cane and good weapon.
Several pictures in the 9/11 NYT showing riot sticks being usedin Pakisatn:
Pakistan Edgy as Ex-Premier Is Exiled Again
Clubs Used in Bolivia.
Bolivians retake airport from national troops
The picture in this paper showed men with clubs who had re-taken the airport from soldiers. From another source:
Lots of pictures in the paper recently showing riot sticks being swung in Pakisatn the past few days...in a quick search I only came up with a non-action shot:
I've been seeing lots of pictures in the news about Kenya that show men with sticks (including what are obviously boards taken from a structure) and machetes.
The use of clubs (and machetes) in Kenya continues:
Helicopters swoop to save Kenya refugees
The slideshow here has many pictures of machetes and sticks being waved. Obviously, they're also being used.
In addition to the panga (machete), apparently there's a traditional regional stick weapon:
Slingshots and bows adn arrows (a traditional weapon), too:
The knife, the big knife, and the knob-stick are the fundamental traditional weapons of Man from Swaziland to Saskatchewan.
Trench maces were important weapons in WWI. The German version, a two to three foot stiff coil spring with a spiked ball on the end, was later turned into a police and self defense weapon and is one of the distant ancestors of the ASP police baton.
Yeah, but this was given a particular name which unfortunately I did not write down--I just didn't know a weapon by name from there as I do know jo and dan bong and baston and such. That's what caught my attention!
In the picture with the bows (previous page of this thread) those are slings not slingshots. Slingshots use elastic bands for power, those are slings which use rotation.
That is still a great photo, though, because modern use of slings is very rare, and very inaccurate unless you've trained a long time with them. On the other hand, a sling that size/length, hurling a stone that size, is more than capable of killing an unarmored man out to around 100 meters (and with a lead ball, out to 200 meters). I spent most of a year training to use a sling, because of my interest in military technology (and I'm in the SCA). I could routinely hit a man sized target at 50 meters, and I could hit the same target at 100 meters more than half the time. I used golf balls at a driving range - ammo was cheap, the targets well marked, and the safety factor was adequate. With more practice and lead ammo, I feel quite sure I could kill a man at those ranges using a sling.
The Greeks and other ancient cultures had regular troops who specialized in the sling (they trained them from childhood), and combined them with skirmisher infantry to brutal effect. The sling was easy to manufacture, and easy to resupply, but required extensive practice for accuracy, and they could not be used in dense formations - this is why the bow replaced it over time. Manufacturing lots of bows could be done by government sponsored militaries, required less training to be effective, and could be fired in mass volleys by closely spaced archers (multiplying the shock effect of arrows).
Ah, thanks! I think I knew the distinction at some level but never thought about it.
Seen on MT (modern bow usage):
Khirbet Susiya Journal
Cameras Emerge as a Tool in a Conflict Over Land
The current unrest in Thailand.
Thai leader orders protesters ousted from airports
Thai protesters seize police officer as tensions at Bangkok airport standoff escalate
Eh, having batons isn't exactly being unarmed, but I suppose I know what they mean.
My point in this thread remains---it can still pay to know how to use a stick in this world!
Seen on MT.
Some stick and sling usage in the current Greek riots:
Bikers brawl through Australian airport; 1 dead
during the airport takeover in Bangkok, members of the UDD were trained by former Thai army general to use staves for self-defense and for a possible attempt to forcibly remove PAD from the airport.
Riot club by Thai police against protesters:
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