Kali-Ilustrisimo Entry on MartialTalk MartialArts Encyclopedia

Discussion in 'Kali Ilustrisimo' started by Bob Hubbard, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Bob Hubbard

    Bob Hubbard Darth Vindicatus Supporting Member

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  2. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    There is no Kali Ilustrismo entry there yet! It's also redlinked on Wikipedia. Can someone add an entry?
  3. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    There is now a very brief entry for this art on Wikipedia. It was updated just a few days ago but is still little more than a list of names.
  4. media

    media New Member

    You will agree that it is a very politically correct entry. No one's feelings should be hurt by the short article.
  5. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    But, it would be nice to see it lengthened!
  6. mronkain

    mronkain New Member


    could someone please ellaborate, what are the different "official" and "not so official" branches of the KI style at present?
  7. JohnJ

    JohnJ Senior Member

    I do not think it is about "official" as much as who is teaching the art in its so-called original form as it was taught to them by Tatang. I would say that GM Tony Diego, Masters Topher Ricketts, Norman Suanico and Romy Macapagal to name a few preserve the art with little to no deviation.

    The others may have simply evolved.
  8. eome

    eome Junior Member

    GM yuli and master morales always believed in evolving. in a fast and changing world one should adapt but they always insisted to never break away from Tatangs teachings and concepts. so wether they evolved or added the bulk of their knowledge of combat experiences, the fact remains that all the students of Tatang kept the original teachings of the Gran maestro.

    but as for bz ilustrisimo. the ilustrisimo taught here is the terminologies and techniques given by tatang to GM tony diego and Gm yuli romo. simply because this is what was taught to them even before the seniors have formulated the curriculum.the earlier curriculum of ilustrisimo is maintained in bahad with the other systems of GM yuli as supplements to his teachings. meaning to say that it is, and will always be the fighting-combat tested concepts of Tatang.

    John has explained it clearly about it and this is a fact that i support.
  9. Master Vince

    Master Vince New Member

    May I say to all of the students of Grand Master Ilustrissimo, he was a really nice and welcoming man, and actually I met him in Manila in 1992 at the WEKAF World Stickfighting Championships.

    He was a very talented martial artist, and it was obvious that he was a great fighter in his younger day, but the thing that I can recall the most about this incredible man, was his beautiful energy that he gave off when he shook your hand, and I knew then and there that I was in the presence of a truly great and wonderful man.

    To 'Tatang's' students, keep his art alive, and train real hard!
    Salamat po everyone.
  10. Buwaya

    Buwaya Senior Member

    Yes, I agree. Very warm and welcoming he was. Miss him.
  11. Raul

    Raul Mananandata

    The wikipedia article is a stub alright.. just a list of names and links.

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