Discussion in 'Pekiti-Tirsia Kali' started by Tahlib, May 8, 2009.

  1. Tahlib

    Tahlib New Member

    I was wondering if anyone could give me a good definition for fistics. All previous attempts at finding a good definition on the internet have resulted in a pornographic website. This is a term I've heard of only relatively recently with regard to empty hand fighting.
  2. selfcritical

    selfcritical New Member

    strikes with the fist that aren't western boxing punches. Limb destructions tend to be an example.
  3. lhommedieu

    lhommedieu Senior Member

    Perhaps a variation of "fisticuffs?"

    See also: Guide.pdf

    It appears to be used primarily in the context of boxing. If indeed it is a variation of "fisticuffs" then the following defintions could suffice:

    fistfight: a fight with bare fists
    Bare-knuckle boxing (also known as bare-knuckle, prizefighting, or fisticuffs) is the original form of boxing closely related to ancient combat sports. It involves two individuals fighting without any boxing gloves or other form of padding on their hands. ... A term commonly used to describe fighting or aggressive behaviour.
    Fisticuffs is slang for a fight.
    As a newer term, though, it might be used in the context of modern-day boxing with gloves: "fistics" would thus to similar in meaning to boxing or even "the sweet science," i.e. not just fighting with your hands - but fighting well. It's just whimsical conjecture on my part but there might be a pun here (i.e. "physics")... "How did you win?" "Oh, it was just good fistics."

    "Fistics" is used in the last website in the context of PTK hand techniques that take place in the boxing range.


    Last edited: May 8, 2009
  4. sjansen

    sjansen New Member

    Using the hands when they are needed are "fistics". Sticks are only usefull if you have one. Fisticuffs, hand techniques, and punching are all fistics. They are the most usefull to every day life. If you will think you will have a stick, knife or sword you are fooling yourself. Learn how to use your sticks and you will train how to use your hands against all weapons.
  5. equilibrium

    equilibrium Member

    fooling yourself

    If you think I won't have a weapon you are fooling yourself.
  6. Doc D

    Doc D New Member

    It's nice to always have a weapon but sometimes you flat out are ill advised to use that weapon and need to keep it out of sight, hence the value of "fistics" . I am generally always armed with something but when folks come in to a facility metabolically or chemically impaired, you can't just go to a weapon if they get combative.....not unless you want to experience serious consequences. When people come to our facilities ( such as the ER) it is understood that appropriate non-lethal steps will be used, if possible to, bring them under control or keep them under control. It's different if they are using lethal force, but if they aren't armed and you pull a weapon you might later have wished you had sought a different intervention. Not every altercation can be approached as if it's a skirmish in the jungle or on the battlefield. Folks who train in Kali / Silat style arts generally train with very high stakes serious combat in mind.....still , its important to remember that along the whole span of human conflict , not every possible altercation justifies or requires the immediate implementation of weapons. So, the use of fistics is a worthy consideration.

    With Respect
  7. They catch you with "a weapon" at an airport or certain other designated places then you're doing time. Which would be foolish ;)
  8. PG Michael B

    PG Michael B Oso Grande

    Unless your in Tacloban Airport, Leyte and have a butt load of Pesos to pay off the greedy PNP....LOL...the Captain I greased even tried to sell me some other sundang & sticks before I left...LOL..slick bastard!
  9. LOL!

    They must've tightened up these last few years. I've heard from several people (pinoys and non-pinoys) that they were not allowed on the Tacloban plane with Sansibars. They had to take a grueling 30 hour bus journey with asssorted livestock back to Manila!

    I've also seen someone pass through who went to the airport (in the U.S too) with a hairbrush in his back pocket. (He had long hair). The brush part was easily pulled off exposing quite a mean, pointed plastic shaft which could do some damage. So, anything's possible I guess...
  10. equilibrium

    equilibrium Member

    Having a weapon is one thing, being able to get to it quickly enough to get it out before having to do some techniques is another matter. So yeah, sometimes you may have a weapon but not time to get it out and you shouldn't compromise what you are doing in an attempt to get to that weapon. You go empty hand until such time that you can safely get the weapon.

    Having a weapon or not having a weapon is a choice and not a circumstance. I won' t go into the airport thing since I don't want to give anyone any ideas. But I will say it again, not having a weapon is a choice not a circumstance. People are full on excuses, but this is the way it is.
  11. PG Michael B

    PG Michael B Oso Grande

    Every time I travel I carry two sturdy rubber bands and a nice thick ball point pen. It is quite easy to roll up that in flight magazine and produce a short smasher (hence the rubber bands)...the pen is a nice little pic as well...a number 2 pencil works well also. If it comes right down to it you can use that brick of a samwhich they serve..that sumbuck will kill you in more ways than you can shake a stick at.

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