Arnisador: You, of all people, get it. PTI is a stylization of a combat system. When one takes a system or systematic process and stylizes it according to their own notions of what seems appropriate or their own combative mindset, it perverts the system and the legacy of its development. For example, Jack tells blue a few posts up that its, like, totally cool to call it Upper 8 due to the fact that it kinda looks like an "8". Whatever works, baby. PTK is dead in the hands on instruction like that. It will barely survive another generation with an approach like that. Ever hear of that game called Telephone? Now I take for granted it is obvious that the physical movement itself is what a person will utilize. Nonetheless, Mr. Latorre would do well to maintain a standard for explaining the relation between those movements and their names that goes beyond "ah well, whatever works". This system can do better than that, for example, "the process for understanding the Doce Methodos is to first understand precisely the translation and definition of the title of each method. The tactics and techniques that comprise each method are not listed in numerically finite form but are rooted in the principles of primary attacks within each combative drill. If the fighter comes to a full and complete understanding for the methods and their principles, then the techniques will always be applied with the proper tactical execution". *silly diatribe alert* I take one glass of Kool-Aid and I put it on a table next to another glass of Kool-Aid. Where there was one, there are now two and I call that Addition, for one has been added to another to make two. Or, whatever, you could just say they're cuddling, seeing as how they are so close together now. Or maybe it looks like they're together-ing, no, um, how 'bout communing. Whatever it looks like to you. The system of mathmatics could not exist without the correct understanding between the word and its action, so too should be the standard for a real weapons combat system.