Dekiti Tirsia Sirradas and my talks with GM Nene.

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  1. MasterKaliSilat

    MasterKaliSilat New Member

    [​IMG][​IMG] Kali Silat, Pencak Silat, Muay Thai, Karate, Kung-fu, Coapuara, the study and mixing of martial arts, all these arts and sciences that rely on the philosophy of them all to survive, to live, and center around every culture, everyway of life, that no one person, group, school, organization, institution or government owns any one way of life, style or technique, and those that share ultimately continue to evolve. It was Tuhon GM Nene, Jr. that brought his uncle into the fold of things during a tour I first produced in 1996 bringing 11 people from two countries to train with Grand Master Tortal and Turhon Gaje, Jr., in Bacalod, Philippines in the Buenos Aires Resort, outside of Bago City.

    Growing up and in every stage in this thing we call martial arts, the majority of which, is all of a processing the arts and sciences, as it relates to our human realm, and the role it plays in our lives even from the moments before physical birth, until our death. It is, as it relates to life and living it’, as GM Nene would say, “Live, life-ing”. GM Nene once said, “the meaning of life, to survive. Nothing more”, he added and he meant it. It revolves around our purpose of well-being, in every one's life. That everyday the most important thing next to practice that you would do everyday, was, “choicing”. “Choicing?” I would ask! As I replied in a broken English as if I were Filipino myself.

    So he would elaborate in ever thing he said, he would do and follow it up with proof. Proof, from a many no more then 27 give or take, he never really let on to his birthday always with the excuse if he name would be remembered, remembered as the man Jesus Christ, to have lived over 2000 years ago and it is that more then 90% of the world population knows his name. “So today I’m going to ‘proof’, yeah proof it he would continue, now with a way to show you from looking within. With in the daily thoughts and actions you take every day, you make a ‘choicing’. Choice to work, choice to take the bus, choice, what to eat? For sure we knew this.

    Yet in his simple way he shared the truth, truth in what you want is the truth in what you believe. Now I’m beginning to see that he means me, yet never says so. As I ponder his meaning, I am now beginning to understand, it relate to that part of our brain, the hypothalamus. That gland in the carter of our brain that sends chemical and electrical commands to our body, meaning our brain. “Wow, I’m so far gone from what he’s saying that it’s to simple for us as humans to figure this out. And as I am in wonderment, I am still wondering what the whole of this meant. Suddenly this genuine Muslim, with his prayer counter would elaborate on the finer things of life, so simple it is in the ability of everyone.

    Now we’re getting to brass tacks I through. When he would just say, be kind. “Be kind?” How could I get to the point of what we were all capable of?” And, more confused as ever, he relied. “Just help one person everyday that you do not know.” “AND NOW FOR THE LESSON. OK, in Pencak Silat, we do not fight, our challenge to another person is to know what he knows, to achieve a greater understanding of how else I can provide the understanding of what I learned in this art and science of how to stop my opponent, first I try kindness. Second I choose, discussion as my guide, listen to what is being said. Third happens to be relied on as my choice function and has a different response depending on many social and physical aspects of my childhood, ‘growing up’ he would reply, “is everyday, one day at a time, so be kind. (helping, helping others, his was of saying it follows.) The meaning, to grow, sharing the knowledge, sharing the sweat, sharing conversation, sharing how you say hi to your self, and how you could help one person everyday that you do not know.) World neighbor is what we have these days; pretty soon your brain waves will be channeled through your iPhone! We travel to every country in the world and have become a world nation. In all experience life the born son or daughter, from every land, for thousands of years passed this knowledge of life. If you only to one thing for your self it is to help others, the people that’s weak, the people that’s strong, as one is another”.

    35 years later I feel the need to understand that if we don’t use this art and science of our life first, how can we follow this simple but profound philosophy that GM Nene shared with us. Never should we forget that life is the meaning to survive, we must think so for every culture. It is the balance of this, that gives us all a change, strive for the choice to help one person first, yourself, the second someone that you don’t know. The same as to why you practice until you find the answer.

    And when you think of it, a simple choice of a few words that mean the difference between invasion or/and co-habitation. And, as we progress with these bigger bombs, dose it really matter what we think about global warming, we’ll probably kill each other off, culture by culture.

    Yes, the one problem with Jesus was the ruling classes could not permit or let people going around thinking they can heal, and solve all these problems. “And, these miracles that you see today are in comparison simple, for the miracles you will see be far greater, “Jesus replied”, in a story we all heard. So I thought that for every person I could give something as my gift. The final blows as GM Nene would say, "proof it, practice to make it so". Practice to become strong, you become strong, do you have to do it everyday.” Make a prayer couple of lines 3 or 4, and proof it.” As this thought of understanding what he meant was, practice every day and you will get it too. Meaning live life everyday as if it were your last! Just so you know, I practice ‘every day’.

    I was fortunate to be a student of GM Nene although we trained in the Filipino Martial Arts, it wasn't until later that I realized we all really needed to practice more.

    Want to know more of the great GM Nene, ? Visit us at http://KaliSilat.org for an upcoming program in Detroit, MI December 8th & 9th at a special Philippine Indonesian gathering.
     
  2. NAGA

    NAGA Member

    GM Tortals website

    Hello All,
    I am shocked that Greg forgot to mention that GM Jerson "Nene" Tortal has his own website and contact information. For anyone interested one can go to www.DTSkali.com and contact him directly. Also GM Tortal will be here in the United States this summer, teaching the system of Dekiti Tirsia Siradas. So, for those with questions you may speak to him directly. Also one may join the official DTS orginization, as well led by GM Tortal!

    Thanks,
    John
     
  3. Carol

    Carol <font color = blue><b>Technical Administrator</b><

    There doesn't appear to be any contract information on the website. The "contact" links weren't working for me...
     
  4. NAGA

    NAGA Member

    OOPs forgot!

    Hello all,
    GM Tortals website is still under construction and should be up within a few weeks. So please be patient and GM Tortal will be online soon.

    Thanks,
    John
     
  5. Carol

    Carol <font color = blue><b>Technical Administrator</b><

    Ah! That's a good reason :D

    Thanks so much John :bow:
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2007
  6. kaliace

    kaliace New Member

    Holly cow.....this one really hurts my brain...
     
  7. truth_be_told

    truth_be_told -== Banned ==-

    congrats new website.

    Cool.
     
  8. bokul

    bokul New Member

    Dekiti Tirsia

    Hello to every one on this forum.

    I hear and see a lot of speculation about certain filopino martial artists and their system. Please if we all are or have some sort of interest in martial arts then we must all have an open mind. I have trained in numerous kinds of martial art systems and continue to do so.

    I believe strongly in research, therefore attend all / any kind of martial art to actually find out about it and not just take some body elses word or intepretation of what ever art I am looking into leaening.

    I have heard both good and bad comments / opions about Dekiti Tirsia, to tell you the truth I have not given any of it a second thought. I will very soon find out for myself what DTS is about as I will be hosting a seminar for GM Jerson E Tortal Jr who is the son of GM Nene tortal Sr here in London early 2008. I invite you all (who ever can come) to attend and have the opportunity to evaluate / ascertain for your selves what DTS is about. We should have ' RESPECT ' for all forms of Martial Art regardless of who the GM or instructors are....

    Thank you.


     
  9. bokul

    bokul New Member

    [​IMG] Dekiti Tirsia
    Hello to every one on this forum.

    I hear and see a lot of speculation about certain filopino martial artists and their system. Please if we all are or have some sort of interest in martial arts then we must all have an open mind. I have trained in numerous kinds of martial art systems and continue to do so.

    I believe strongly in research, therefore attend all / any kind of martial art to actually find out about it and not just take some body elses word or intepretation of what ever art I am looking into leaening.

    I have heard both good and bad comments / opions about Dekiti Tirsia, to tell you the truth I have not given any of it a second thought. I will very soon find out for myself what DTS is about as I will be hosting a seminar for GM Jerson E Tortal Jr who is the son of GM Nene tortal Sr here in London early 2008. I invite you all (who ever can come) to attend and have the opportunity to evaluate / ascertain for your selves what DTS is about. We should have ' RESPECT ' for all forms of Martial Art regardless of who the GM or instructors are....

    Thank you.
     
  10. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    I've only met Mr. Tortal Jr. once, unfortunately. I've been to seminars by Mr. Tortal Sr. several times, and he's great!
     

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