Bob Kasper's Kni-Com?

Discussion in 'Misc. Knife Arts' started by Makata, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. Makata

    Makata New Member

    Here's a long shot: does anyone here know any serious details about the late Bob Kasper's Kni-Com method? As in, can anyone here break down with any detail how this material was both trained and taught within the GHCA?

    If you don't know who Kasper was, or what Kni-Com is--here:

    http://www.ghca.org/Kni-Com.html
    http://www.realfighting.com/1102/kasperART.html
    http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5860.html
    http://www.ghca.org/KFK.html
    http://www.fighttimes.com/magazine/magazine.asp?article=569
    http://selfprotection.lightbb.com/viewtopic.forum?t=1091

    On Kasper, Kary, McCann, Cestari, Kni-Com, Close Combat/Combatives, etc.:

    http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13548

    FYI: Bob Kasper was a big influence on (and a friend of) Kelly McCann/Jim Grover's, was once in the GHCA with John Kary of American Combatives, and was once the student/training partner and good friend of Mr. Carl Cestari.

    Any input would be appreciated!

    Reqiescat In Pace, Mr. Kasper--all best, everyone.

    L.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2007
  2. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    Does no one know?
     
  3. silat1

    silat1 Active Member

    From what I have been hearing through the grapevine, the Kni-com program is supposedly going to be kept being taught through one of Bob Kaspar's senior students.. I also have been told that there are some stuff in the wind with a book and some dvds coming out on his programs..
    I have seen Kelly McCann's Knife program on his crucible dvd packages and if the Kni-com is anything like that, it is going to be some good stuff.

    Bill
     
  4. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    I've heard many good things about Kelly McCann's material but I am not personally familiar with it.
     
  5. 5thprofession47

    5thprofession47 New Member

    Kelly McCann's material is solid, no nonsense stuff. His book and his DVD series from Paldin Press are among top selling products. A friend of mine trained the Kni-Con material under Kasper back in 1999 or 2000 and swears by it. He showed me the material and it is very sound. As for more information about a possible book, I recalled reading a post on Pat Crawfords website (Pat produced a knife Kasper designed called The Dragon which CRKT now offeres as a production model) here is a link to Crawford's site.

    http://www.crawfordknives.com/DRAGON%20KNIFE.htm
     
  6. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    I like the knife! I hadn't heard of Arwrology.
     
  7. 5thprofession47

    5thprofession47 New Member


    You can buy the knife from CRKT pretty cheap. I have it and it is a nice knife, but the grip is too small IMO.

    Paladin press carried a reprint of the extremely hard to find book on Arwrology written by Gordon E. Perrigard, M.D. He was the man who Kasper sought out and allied with, IIRC. here's a link: http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1348
     
  8. arnisador

    arnisador Active Member

    Hmmmm...I'll put it on my Christmas list.
     
  9. Makata

    Makata New Member

    Bob Kasper's STING OF THE SCORPION:
    http://www.paladin-press.com/product/1101/49

    It's *A GREAT BOOK*, IMHO. It's not the entire Kni-Com program, as the various "jailhouse/gangster" assault techniques in Kni-Com were left out, but the chapters on deployment and drawing-to-strike are excellent! :)

    For anyone that's interested in knifework, combatives, etc.: RECOMMENDED HIGHLY!

    Stay safe everyone,
    Lester S.
     
  10. Robert Klampfer

    Robert Klampfer New Member

    I'll second that. I always liked Bob's work and am glad that Kelly McCann and Paladin Press brought this to print.

    Robert
     
  11. Makata

    Makata New Member

    http://www.paladin-press.com/product/1166/48

    Here's Kelly McCann's personal interpretation of the Kni-Com curriculum! This is an *AWESOME* training video, and is a real pleasure to watch and learn from! Also, I recently learned that some of the "jailhouse knifer" methods Bob Kasper taught were applied to close-range pistolcraft in Kelly's COMBATIVE PISTOL video ( http://www.paladin-press.com/product/41/24 ), which is also ESSENTIAL viewing, IMHO!

    With both of these videos, plus STING OF THE SCORPION--if you dig bladework and Close Combat, you are in for many hours of fun training! ENJOY! :)

    Lester
     
  12. Makata

    Makata New Member

    I really love the Dragon knife! Indeed, our very own Bill Bednarick made a pair of awesome Dragon trainers for me--I believe the pics of 'em are on this forum someplace! :)

    L.
     
  13. gagimilo

    gagimilo Member

    I gotta second Makata on his opinion regarding McCann's stuff. I mean, I had already seen some of this approach in his Inside the Crucibles 3, but the new one is great anyway. His approach really puts things into perspective, and gives a good reference point in reevaluating your current training methods. Put this together with Dog Brothers/Gabe Suarez DLO and you have a formidable package...
     
  14. 5thprofession47

    5thprofession47 New Member

    Guys, be sure to buy this book, you will not be sorry! I am almost through it. I have been follwing Mr. McCann's work for many years now and can say without hesitation that this is THE book on Combatives.

    Combatives for Street Survival: Hard-Core Countermeasures for High-Risk Situations

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    Product Description

    Leading the reader through simple yet powerful, brutally effective methods of self-defense designed for use in myriad street crime scenarios, this guide explains the use of force continuum and teaches how to efficiently avoid potentially violent encounters though the use of "pre-incident indicators." The techniques depicted are credible, relevant, practicable, and utilized by members of elite military units and U.S. government personnel traveling abroad to high-risk areas of operation. The philosophy of "less is more" results in a succinct system of self-defense that is drawn from the author’s experiences as well as the collective experience of his students around the world.


    http://www.amazon.com/Combatives-St...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249838681&sr=8-1

    Also: If you have not heard about his previous book, be sure to buy it as well. It will be time (and $) well spent.

    Street Smarts, Firearms, And Personal Security : Jim Grover's Guide To Staying Alive And Avoiding Crime In The Real World

    Product Description
    Jim Grover's professional credentials in the art of crime avoidance and self-defense are as good as it gets: on-site security specialist in the world's hottest of hot spots, combatives instructor to ultrahigh-speed military and police units and hands-on security trainer to international corporations, among other sensitive assignments. Here is a compilation of the best of his wildly popular "Personal Security" columns in Guns & Ammo magazine. It covers the entire spectrum of personal security issues, with street-savvy ideas and twists you will find nowhere else. Learn how to vastly improve the physical security of your home; develop alert street smarts; stay safe while traveling in your vehicle, out of town or abroad; recognize and avoid crimes of the new millennium; keep your children safe; choose and use effective nonlethal weapons; engage in nasty unarmed combat; and utilize radically practical shooting skills that have been perfected in real-life situations. From spotting trouble before it happens to surviving a riot to handling a firearm like a pro, this book has it all!

    http://www.amazon.com/Street-Smarts...=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249839034&sr=8-8
     

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